Last night, Florida hosted the penultimate Republican primary debate. We have had a lot of these!
If you have watched all 12 of the 2015-2016 GOP debates, you have spent more than a day of your life watching the 2015-2016 GOP debates.
— David Gura (@davidgura) March 11, 2016
As ever, Twitter was at the ready. After the escalating insanity of the last few debates, many wondered: what would tonight’s contest bring? Cruel nicknames? Anatomical humor? Fisticuffs?
None of that came to pass. Instead, Jake Tapper and the CNN moderators presided over the most sedate, policy-centered debate in ages.
They began the night talking about trade. John Kasich endorsed free trade, within reason.
Kasich: "We want to have free trade, but fair trade." #GOPDebate
— USA TODAY (@USATODAY) March 11, 2016
Kasich: My father was a dead coal miner, so I would never take a bad position on trade. #GOPDebate
— Tom Burka (@tomburka) March 11, 2016
Donald Trump maintained his prior position of being both for and against outsourcing and free trade with the developing world.
WOW. Trump on outsourcing: "we're allowed to do it." #GOPDebate
— Elliott Schwartz (@elliosch) March 11, 2016
Trump: I will change things because only I know how I do the things you hate #GOPDebate
— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) March 11, 2016
Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz remained in the free trade camp, while cracking down on companies that abuse the visa system.
Rubio is absolutely correct on abuse of H-1B abuse. They’re only used to displace U.S. workers if the program is being abused. #GOPDebate
— Kemberlee Kaye (@KemberleeKaye) March 11, 2016
Rubio made a good case for trade deals. Cruz is trying hard to sound more like Trump; also, explain the difference between TPA and TPP.
— Megan McArdle (@asymmetricinfo) March 11, 2016
did ted cruz just say he's down with OPP #gopdebate
— Tracy Clayton (@brokeymcpoverty) March 11, 2016
This is the most substantive open to a debate in like 6 weeks.
— Noah Rothman (@NoahCRothman) March 11, 2016
With no brawl breaking out, the moderators shifted the conversation to immigration. Surely, that would get the fur flying, right?
Kasich reminded viewers of the value of legal immigration.
This is a good answer from Kasich re: immigration. It's important for Republicans to emphasize we support legal immigration.
— Ellen L. Carmichael (@ellencarmichael) March 11, 2016
Kasich just made a strong case against immigration by saying if we didn't have immigration he'd be running for president of Croatia.
— Seth Mandel (@SethAMandel) March 11, 2016
Trump told of his long experience with the visa system, which he also said was bad, somehow.
Trump: “I know the H-1B program very well. It’s something that I use and I shouldn’t be allowed to use”
— Zeke Miller (@ZekeJMiller) March 11, 2016
In one sentence, Trump says
1) he uses H-1b visas
and
2) H-1b visas hurt American workers— Betsy Woodruff (@woodruffbets) March 11, 2016
Stop me before I H1B again.
— John Dickerson (@jdickerson) March 11, 2016
They moved on to a polite, if confused, segment on Common Core.
Tapper: What are your specific objections to Common Core?
Trump: education through DC. I want to make education great.— Mollie (@MZHemingway) March 11, 2016
It's clear, by the way, not that this is important, that Donald Trump literally — literally! — has no idea what Common Core is. No biggie.
— Jon Ralston (@RalstonReports) March 11, 2016
Cruz took it a step further.
Ted Cruz the only one to pivot the education question to school choice. Kudos. Point Cruz. #GOPDebate
— Will Antonin (@Will_Antonin) March 11, 2016
On entitlement reform, there was again calm discussion of detailed plans. Rubio described his plan to gradually raise the retirement age while protecting current retirees’ benefits.
Rubio gives a good answer on Social Security. Sadly, it will probably lose to people who tell wild lies.
— Megan McArdle (@asymmetricinfo) March 11, 2016
Shorter Marco: My SS policy is great and so great it will not apply to anyone who will vote next week!
— Sam Seder (@SamSeder) March 11, 2016
Kasich argued for a less drastic approach.
Kasich: I have a plan to fix social security. We do nothing.
— Bre Payton (@Bre_payton) March 11, 2016
Trump had a three-part plan to fix Social Security:
Part 1: Winning.
Trump's social security plan is literally just nonsense.
— andrew kaczynski (@BuzzFeedAndrew) March 11, 2016
Part 2: Waste, fraud and abuse.
Whenever a GOP politician talks about "waste, fraud, and abuse," I know he's got nothing.
— Rod Dreher (@roddreher) March 11, 2016
Part 3: Did I mention winning?
Q: "How will you do this very difficult thing?"
A: "I will do it by doing so many things your head will spin!"
Every Trump answer#GOPdebate— el Sooper ن (@SooperMexican) March 11, 2016
Trump asked about Social Security, complains about US troops in Korea
— Michael Crowley (@michaelcrowley) March 11, 2016
Up to that point, everyone still kept things calm and mostly rational, they way we wish they had from the beginning.
March 10, 2016: the Xanax debate.
— Lizzie O'Leary (@lizzieohreally) March 11, 2016
Trump trying very hard to be the adult in the room. It fits him like an oversize trench coat.
— Noah Rothman (@NoahCRothman) March 11, 2016
On foreign policy, however, the exchanges finally heated up. Returning to trade and tariffs, Cruz pointed out the problem in Trump’s protectionism.
"You are paying the tax. It's not China that pays the tax. It's you, the working men & women of America." @TedCruz #GOPdebate #Cato2016
— Kat Murti (@KatMurti) March 11, 2016
Tapper gave Trump the chance to take back an earlier comment that “Islam hates us.” Nope.
Donald Trump is asked about his "Islam hates us" comment.
All 1.6 billion Muslims?
"I mean a LOT of them" pic.twitter.com/Ta9oc6fm19
— BuzzFeed News (@BuzzFeedNews) March 11, 2016
Rubio defended Muslim Americans and our Muslim allies abroad, while noting that as much fun as off-the-cuff commentary is, the words of a President carry great weight around the world.
Rubio to Trump: "I'm not interested in being politically correct. I'm interested in being correct."
— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) March 11, 2016
Good for Marco on the Muslim answer. That's wasn't politically correct. That was an American tradition.
— Ari Fleischer (@AriFleischer) March 11, 2016
Trump was questioned on his call for torture and the death of terrorists’ families.
Trump: our enemies are hateful, uncivilized barbarians, so we must become like them in order to win.
— Jeff B/DDHQ (@EsotericCD) March 11, 2016
The debate continued in that vein, and the foreign affairs facts were flying.
Outside the Coral Gables debate hall, the guys who wrote Kasich, Rubio, Trump, and Cruz's policy briefing books. pic.twitter.com/XCHWg1hpNQ
— Nick Confessore (@nickconfessore) March 11, 2016
Cruz called for a more reasoned foreign policy than Trump offered.
Cruz mocks Trump for saying “China bad, Muslims bad” but not understanding problems. Says his language incendiary but proposals are impotent
— Mollie (@MZHemingway) March 11, 2016
Trump responded by reminding the crowd that he was the best friend to Israel. The best!
Crowd boos when Trump says he's most pro-Israel candidate on stage. They laugh when he brings up being marshall of Israeli parade.
— Ellen L. Carmichael (@ellencarmichael) March 11, 2016
@TheRickWilson Trump's Credentials on Israel: pic.twitter.com/jkoGVR3mPa
— Stu Franco (@StuFranco) March 11, 2016
"Very pro-Israel. Love Hannukah. Great holiday. The Jews are a fun people. Haag Sameach. Lox. Terrific."
— Gideon Resnick (@GideonResnick) March 11, 2016
Trump: there's a Zabars near one of my buildings on the West Side!
— Olivia Nuzzi (@Olivianuzzi) March 11, 2016
Kasich’s position on peace in the Middle East? It’s probably not going to happen.
Kasich: "I don't believe there is any long term permanent peace solution and pursing that is the wrong thing to do."
— Liam Stack (@liamstack) March 11, 2016
Trump disagreed with Kasich, and with earlier versions of his own positions, calling for thousands of U.S. troops against ISIS.
Trump: We have no choice but to commit US ground troops to fight ISIS.
Trump, recently: Leave that to Russia.
Making it up as he goes.
— Guy Benson (@guypbenson) March 11, 2016
So this is the debate Trump reverses half of his foreign policy positions.
— Michael B Dougherty (@michaelbd) March 11, 2016
Then the talk turned to Cuba, an important issue for the Miami crowd. Would Trump restore normal relations with the socialist island nation?
Donald Trump would, whatever, you know, do some stuff, with some policies and deals. You know, like ya do.
— Peter Suderman (@petersuderman) March 11, 2016
Every Donald Trump answer: Outrageous statement + incoherent babble + random numbers + “we’ll make a good deal"
— Mark Hemingway (@Heminator) March 11, 2016
Rubio was ready for this one. He demanded that Cuba make some actual reforms before being embraced by the United States, and compared them unfavorably to Burma.
Rubio just is not going to lose debating Cuba policy, as a Cuban, in Miami. He knows the topic better than anyone, is fluent, & *owns* crowd
— Jeff B/DDHQ (@EsotericCD) March 11, 2016
Rubio's answer in Cuba was
— Benny (@bennyjohnson) March 11, 2016
Mr. Trump your thoughts on Burma? pic.twitter.com/xUUhNVBnXB
— Stephen Miller (@redsteeze) March 11, 2016
Trump’s retort? DEALS!
Rubio's roundhouse on Trump's jaw over Cuba clearly got under Donald's skin.
— Seth Mandel (@SethAMandel) March 11, 2016
Deal deal deal deal deal deal deal.
— Jesse Walker (@notjessewalker) March 11, 2016
trump: [seinfeld voice] what’s the deal with all these bad deals?
— Sarah McLaughlin (@sarahemclaugh) March 11, 2016
SAY ' DEAL' ONE MORE TIME.
— Tracy Clayton (@brokeymcpoverty) March 11, 2016
The best deals. Deals so good, it’ll make your head spin. pic.twitter.com/LEazpouTD5
— T. Becket Adams (@BecketAdams) March 11, 2016
Tonight's #GOPDebate felt like a goddamn Presidents Day Sale. pic.twitter.com/WScyw08Z7J
— Andrew Kirell (@AndrewKirell) March 11, 2016
Cruz questioned Trump’s praise for foreign dictators.
"I'm not endorsing what the Chinese and Russians did, I'm just saying it was awesome."#GOPDebate
— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) March 11, 2016
Trump: Yes, I've said nice things about Vladimir Putin, but on the other hand, I don't like Angela Merkel anymore.
— Josh Barro (@jbarro) March 11, 2016
Kasich reiterated the traditional American position on dictators: they’re bad.
Trump bobs & weaves on Tiananmen Square
Kasich forceful & clear: the "Chinese government butchered those kids"
— Alex Burns (@alexburnsNYT) March 11, 2016
Shifting to violence closer to home, Tapper asked why Trump’s rallies bring the ruckus.
When Trump says he doesn’t endorse violence, Tapper begins quoting him calling for violence. Trump says protesters deserve it.
— Mollie (@MZHemingway) March 11, 2016
Q: Mr. Trump you tell people to beat up protestors and they do
A: Aren’t our police great— Philip Gourevitch (@PGourevitch) March 11, 2016
But Tapper, and the other candidates, stopped short of asking Trump about violence perpetrated by his own employee.
But where is the follow up about @MichelleFields? What about the war on the press?
— Olivia Nuzzi (@Olivianuzzi) March 11, 2016
After a dispute over delegate math and their respective chances of winning, the evening drew to a close.
Rubio says smart things. Cruz says smart things. Even Kasich says a few smart things. Trump does not. Trump wins. https://t.co/a2NmKgAKjI
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) March 11, 2016
Not everything said was brilliant, but the tone was somewhat elevated and the candidates kept it PG-rated. For that, they deserve at least some praise.
Focus group consensus: "We liked the civil, substantive #GOPDebate."
Internet focus group consensus: "We wanted to attack Trump more!!!"
— Frank Luntz (@FrankLuntz) March 11, 2016
Here is your #GOPDebate recap pic.twitter.com/TAe5SZNRv0
— pourmecoffee (@pourmecoffee) March 11, 2016