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Mike Giglio, staff writer at The Atlantic, joins the Federalist Radio Hour to discuss his new book on the rise and fall of the ISIS caliphate in the Middle East. Host Ben Domenech and Giglio discuss his time reporting overseas, his relationships with members of ISIS, the fall of Mosul, and the impact of conflict on the rest of the world.
“We kept seeing actual progress against ISIS. It wasn’t a talking point, they were losing their territory,” Giglio said. “America can be so powerful when it wants to be. It doesn’t mean you have to send masses of troops. If the U.S. put it’s diplomatic weight behind finding better outcomes in Syria and Iraq, I think it would look a lot differently.”
Giglio’s book is, “Shatter the Nations: ISIS and the War for the Caliphate.”