Podcast host Joe Rogan grilled CNN’s Chief Medical Correspondent Sanjay Gupta about his network’s lies about Ivermectin.
“Horse dewormer is not a flattering thing, I get that,” Gupta said on episode #178 of “The Joe Rogan Experience,” which aired on Wednesday.
“It’s a lie on a news network. It’s a lie that’s willing, that’s a lie that they’re conscious of. It’s not a mistake. They’re unfavorably framing it as veterinary medicine,” Rogan responded.
Joe Rogan asks Sanjay Gupta if it bothers him that CNN outright lied about Rogan taking horse dewormer to recover from covid. This is fantastic: pic.twitter.com/PEgJqIXhSD
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At one point, Rogan asked whether he needed to sue the network for spreading falsehoods about the COVID-19 medication prescribed to him by his doctor.
“Do I have to sue CNN? They’re making sh-t up,” Rogan said. “They keep saying I’m taking horse dewormer. I literally got it from a doctor. It’s an American company. They won the Nobel Prize in 2015 for use in human beings, and CNN is saying I’m taking horse dewormer. They must know that’s a lie.”
When Gupta mentioned the FDA’s “snarky” Twitter post telling people “You are not a horse. You are not a cow,” and urging them not to use Ivermectin as a COVID treatment, Rogan pointed out that medical authorities have given the drug out to “billions and billions of people” and noting that it even won its inventor the Nobel Prize.
“Why would they lie and say that’s horse dewormer? I can afford people medicine, motherf-cker,” Rogan said. “This is ridiculous. It’s just a lie. But don’t you think that a lie like that is dangerous on a news network when you know that they know they are lying? You know that they know that I took medicine. Like here it is. This is Ivermectin.”
Rogan then cornered Gupta about CNN’s mischaracterization of his prescription.
“Do you think that that’s a problem that your news network lied? They lied and said I was taking horse dewormer,” Rogan said.
“They shouldn’t have said that,” Gupta admitted before acknowledging that he never pushed back or asked about the network’s claims. “If you got a human pill, because there are people that were taking the veterinary medication, and you’re not obviously. You got it from a doctor, so that shouldn’t be called that. Ivermectin can be a very effective medication for parasitic disease.”
Rogan went on to explain that CNN aired the lie “with such glee,” which Gupta denied.
Gupta defended his decision to join Rogan for the show in an op-ed CNN published on Thursday where he took not-so-subtle shots at the podcast host’s beliefs about COVID.
“I guess a small part of me thought I might change Joe Rogan’s mind about vaccines. After this last exchange, I realized it was probably futile. His mind was made up, and there would always be plenty of misinformation out there neatly packaged to support his convictions,” Gupta concluded. “Truth is though, I am still glad I did it. My three-hour-long conversation wasn’t just with Rogan. If just a few of his listeners were convinced, it will have been well worth it.”