Ben Domenech interviews New York Times columnist Ross Douthat, author of the newly-released “To Change the Church: Pope Francis and the Future of Catholicism.” Douthat lays out the political narratives surrounding the church this century and how the current Pontifex has created a division in the church.
Later in the hour, they nerd out over newer works of fantasy fiction and discuss how they differ from the past.
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